With an impressive array of credentials in the food industry, John Foraker is surprisingly down-to-earth. A guaranteed way to get him laughing is to liken his recognition in the natural and organic food sector to that of actress Jennifer Garner, who serves as the chief brand officer for Once Upon a Farm, the fresh baby food company Foraker currently leads. “When you run a company like Annie’s, you inevitably gain a significant profile, regardless of me. But I will never be as famous as Jennifer Garner. People adore her,” Foraker remarked during an interview with Food Dive at Once Upon a Farm’s booth at Natural Products Expo East last week. However, it’s clear that many of the thousands of attendees at the convention share a similar admiration for Foraker. He was the CEO of organic giant Annie’s during its rise in the 2000s, playing a pivotal role in transitioning organic food from a niche market to mainstream acceptance. As a vocal supporter of natural and organic foods, as well as various social causes, he took Annie’s public in March 2012, with shares rising by 89% on the first day of trading. Two years later, General Mills acquired Annie’s for $820 million, yet Foraker remained at the company’s helm until last year when he took on the role of CEO at Once Upon a Farm.

In a conversation with Food Dive, Foraker discussed his journey in the organic food industry, how he leverages the CEO platform to effect change, and the emerging food brands of tomorrow. The transcript has been condensed for clarity and brevity.

JOHN FORAKER: We are currently introducing nine baby food cups. Previously, we only offered pouches. If you examine the conventional baby food market, only about 25% is packaged in pouches, while 75% is in jars or cups. We plan to begin shipping these in December, with a launch in January. The concept remains the same: cold-pressed baby food featuring exciting flavors in three stages. Three of these options are WIC eligible. Our long-term objective is to become the first fresh WIC baby food available in several states, expanding gradually over time. The business is thriving, and we’re working on establishing a new category called Fresh Baby. One of my first initiatives upon joining was to introduce smoothies in pouches, as we didn’t want to pigeonhole our brand solely as a baby food provider. Our focus is on kids up to about age 12, and we are currently expanding our baby line. Smoothies are experiencing rapid growth, and we have significant innovations planned for the coming years to support that continuum.

FORAKER: Back in 1994, while attending business school at UC Berkeley, I co-founded a specialty food company with two entrepreneurs in Napa Valley. Around that time, we welcomed our first child, Jack. While developing this specialty food business, I came home one day to find some strawberries on a shelf in the refrigerator. I was hungry and grabbed them, only to be told by my wife, “Oh no, those are for Jack.” I was puzzled until she explained that her children would eat organic, and those strawberries cost three times as much as the ones I usually bought. That moment sparked my curiosity about organic food. We ended up producing organic products at that company, and I joined Annie’s in 1999, just after they had launched some organic items ahead of the USDA certification in 2002. We focused on that business, converting Annie’s to primarily organic offerings while actively participating in key battles for GMO labeling. Alongside partners like Stonyfield, Organic Valley, and Clif Bar, I appreciated the collaborative nature of this industry.

FORAKER: Initially, our main challenges were supply-related. Consumer awareness of organic products was quite low, although it has increased over time. Today, there is still confusion among consumers regarding natural versus organic products. The number of organic farmers was also limited, and demand for ingredients was surging. A humorous incident occurred when an organic ingredient we had always taken for granted, organic corn starch, suddenly became incredibly scarce for reasons unknown. This shortage affected everyone in the industry and lasted several months. Eventually, we discovered that a major food company had been hoarding organic ingredients for an upcoming product launch, illustrating how organic food became more mainstream as large CPG companies began to enter the market. The scale at which they operate necessitated industry adaptation, which continues to this day.

FORAKER: When I first encountered Annie’s, I was immediately drawn to the brand—not just because their mac and cheese was delicious, but because the packaging was full of quirky slogans addressing sustainability, anti-war sentiments, and community love. This brand fostered a strong emotional connection with consumers, particularly mothers and idealistic young adults. The emergence of social media revolutionized Annie’s, as we were among the first consumer brands to establish a Facebook presence and actively engage with our audience early on. Back then, we even had a guestbook on our website where we would interact with customers. Competing against Kraft was daunting, as they could always outspend us. Still, we maintained our authenticity, allowing us to communicate our values and positions on significant social issues effectively.

FORAKER: Early on, there were far fewer competitors, and organic products were regarded as niche offerings by most retailers. Chains like Park Slope Co-op and Fresh Fields, which eventually became Whole Foods, recognized the potential of organic products, while mainstream retailers like Safeway, Kroger, or Target did not. Today, however, consumers are more mainstream, and retailers now understand the opportunity organic products present, leading to increased distribution. You can now find organic items in virtually every retailer, a drastic shift from the late ’90s and early 2000s when many viewed organic as merely a trend.

FORAKER: The decision to go public stemmed from having a supportive capital partner in Solera Capital, who had been invested for over a decade. I felt a responsibility to provide them with a return. While recapitalization or a sale are typical paths, I believed Annie’s had the potential to go public. I shared my vision with Molly Ashby from Solera, who agreed, and after discussions with investment bankers, we took Annie’s public in 2012. The IPO was a resounding success, elevating brand awareness and positioning us as a leader in the organic space in a way I hadn’t fully anticipated. My primary reason for opting for an IPO instead of selling was to maintain independence and uphold the values that define Annie’s, ultimately allowing it to endure within General Mills.

FORAKER: We faced a challenging period when commodity prices soared, which we had not managed well. Consequently, our stock came under pressure, prompting inquiries from potential partners. Recognizing the need for a strategic decision, we ultimately chose to partner with General Mills.

FORAKER: General Mills is now integral to the organic landscape, owning numerous organic brands and investing heavily in organic supply chains and infrastructure. Their recent investment in a substantial project in South Dakota, converting a 35,000-acre ranch to organic practices, exemplifies their commitment to this sector.

FORAKER: I could have pursued various opportunities leading large companies or starting new ventures. Even after General Mills acquired Annie’s, I was involved in their natural and organic portfolio and served on the U.S. leadership team. However, I knew that when something resonates with me, it signifies the right path. This brand truly touched my heart. Originally, I was an investor and admired its mission, despite its small size. Then one day, Jennifer Garner reached out, wanting to discuss her interest in the food industry. She had spent over a decade working with Save the Children, was a mother, and was deeply aware of the challenges surrounding children’s nutrition, particularly for low-income families.

I was half an hour late to our hour-long meeting, which ended up lasting three hours. We discussed how business could serve as a force for good in children’s nutrition, sharing many common passions. By the end of the meeting, we high-fived and decided to collaborate.

FORAKER: My appreciation for Annie’s grew over time, as it represented a business focused on optimism and the belief that commerce could contribute positively to the world while still being profitable for shareholders. Companies like Ben & Jerry’s had previously articulated this vision, but it was rare. As I grew into my role, I felt compelled to advocate for issues that mattered to me. At Once Upon a Farm, I actively address concerns that resonate with our consumers, such as the plight of separated children at the border, the Dreamers, and advocating for paid medical and family leave. As a leader, I believe it’s essential to understand your core values and align them with those of your business. If they don’t match, it may be time to reconsider your position. Once you identify your values, confidently advocate for them. The recent actions taken by Nike with Colin Kaepernick serve as a prime example of how a company can take a stand at the highest level. CEOs should be comfortable doing so; their objective isn’t to please everyone but to build trust with consumers regarding their brand.

FORAKER: This approach has been crucial to Annie’s success, as we were unafraid to take unpopular positions. I shared a picture on social media showing our mac and cheese boxes arranged in rainbow colors for LGBTQ pride long before many companies were willing to associate with such causes. Despite some backlash from consumers, I believed the majority supported the stance, and I prioritized doing what was right. This authenticity cultivated consumer trust in our brand. At Once Upon a Farm, we have also advocated for paid family leave, implementing our own policy and promoting it nationally, collaborating with other companies to make progress. I urge leaders to take similar stands, as businesses must act as a force for good alongside government and nonprofits.

FORAKER: It’s a challenging journey, and it has evolved. Initially, I fell in love with specific products, but now I find myself captivated by the entrepreneurs and the potential of their brands. I seek businesses that disrupt the status quo. For instance, I was an early investor in Wild Friends, a nut butter company that excels in innovation and social media, garnering admiration from larger brands. Recently, I invested in A Dozen Cousins, founded by Ibraheem Basir, a former marketing manager at General Mills, who I believe will achieve remarkable success.

FORAKER: For those in the industry, networking and engaging with other entrepreneurs who have faced similar challenges is crucial. It’s vital to prove that you have a product that genuinely sells before attempting to expand. Surround yourself with experienced individuals who can complement your skills and fill gaps in your expertise.

FORAKER: Currently, organic accounts for about 5% of the U.S. food market, but I foresee it reaching 20%. While I can’t predict an exact timeline, I’m confident for two main reasons. Firstly, major CPG companies have entered the organic space, which has bolstered their business. More importantly, younger generations, including millennials and those that follow, prioritize clean, simple foods like organic products, suggesting a significant market expansion is inevitable. The only question is how quickly we will reach that point.

FORAKER: I’m genuinely passionate about the entrepreneurial spirit, optimism, and innovation within this industry. The creativity showcased at trade shows is astonishing, although not all ideas will achieve commercial success. Sometimes they arrive too early or too late, but the drive to innovate and take risks fosters a dynamic ecosystem. I always return from these events invigorated and eager to learn from others, regardless of their experience level. I’m open to new ideas, ingredients, and consumer trends. Many of the powerful brands of the future are being conceived right here. In 20 years, we may discuss a brand that emerged from this show that has changed the world, and it might happen even sooner—within five years. That prospect is incredibly exciting.

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