John Foraker, a prominent figure in the food industry with an impressive array of credentials, is surprisingly approachable. One sure-fire way to get him to chuckle is to liken his status in the natural and organic food sector to that of actress Jennifer Garner, who serves as the chief brand officer for Once Upon a Farm, the fresh baby food company Foraker currently leads. “When you run a company like Annie’s, you inevitably become well-known, regardless of me. But I will never reach the level of fame that Jennifer Garner enjoys. People adore her,” Foraker shared with Food Dive at the Once Upon a Farm booth during Natural Products Expo East last week. However, many attendees at the convention surely hold a similar affection for Foraker. He previously served as CEO of Annie’s, an organic giant that played a significant role in bringing organic products into the mainstream during the 2000s. As an outspoken proponent of natural and organic food, as well as various social causes, he took Annie’s public in March 2012. By the end of its first trading day, shares of BNNY—named after Annie’s bunny mascot—had surged by 89%. Two years later, General Mills acquired Annie’s for $820 million. Despite the acquisition, Foraker remained at the helm until last year, when he took on the role of CEO at Once Upon a Farm.

In his conversation with Food Dive, Foraker reflected on his journey in the organic food sector, the impact he has made using his position as CEO, and what he sees as the powerful brands of the future. This transcript has been edited for brevity and clarity.

JOHN FORAKER: Right now, we are introducing nine new baby food cups. Until now, we have only offered our products in pouch format. In the conventional baby food market, only about 25% is offered in pouches, while about 75% comes in jars or cups. We plan to start shipping these in December and launch in January. The concept remains the same—cold-pressed baby food, featuring exciting flavors in three stages. Notably, three of these options are WIC eligible. Our long-term aim is to provide the first fresh WIC baby food in several states, expanding over time. The business is thriving, and we aim to create a new category labeled Fresh Baby. One of my team’s initial actions was to roll out smoothies in pouches, as we wanted to establish a brand that caters not just to babies but to kids up to age 12. Currently, we are expanding our baby food line, and our smoothies are growing rapidly, with a plethora of innovations on the horizon for the coming years.

FORAKER: My journey began in 1994 when I was in business school at UC Berkeley. Between my first and second years, I co-founded a specialty food company with two entrepreneurs in Napa Valley. Around that time, we welcomed our first child, Jack. One day, I came home to find some strawberries on a shelf in the fridge. I was hungry and grabbed them, only to be told by my wife, “Oh no, those are for Jack.” I was taken aback and learned that she wanted our kids to eat organic, despite the higher cost. This was my first real exposure to organic food, and I thought, “I need to understand this better.” Our company eventually began producing organic products, and in 1999, I got involved with Annie’s, which had recently launched organic items even before the USDA certification was established in 2002. We focused on growing that brand, converting much of our product line to organic, and participating in the crucial battles over GMO labeling alongside companies like Stonyfield, Organic Valley, and Clif Bar. I cherish the collaborative spirit of this industry.

FORAKER: Initially, our biggest challenges were related to supply. Consumer awareness of organic products was quite low, although it began to increase over time. Even today, there remains confusion among consumers regarding natural and organic products. There were not enough organic farmers to meet the rapidly rising demand for ingredients. A humorous incident occurred when a particular organic ingredient, which we had always taken for granted—organic corn starch—suddenly became scarce for reasons we couldn’t pinpoint. This scarcity affected everyone, and later, we discovered that a major food company had been stockpiling organic ingredients for their launches. As organic became more mainstream, these larger consumer packaged goods (CPG) companies began entering the market, necessitating industry adaptation, which continues today.

FORAKER: When I first encountered the Annie’s brand, I was smitten—not just because the mac and cheese was delicious, but due to its quirky branding, which included slogans promoting sustainability, peace, and community. This brand resonated emotionally with consumers, particularly moms and idealistic young adults. A pivotal moment for Annie’s was the rise of social media. We were among the first consumer brands to establish a Facebook presence and engage actively with our audience. Competing against Kraft, we recognized that while they could outspend us significantly, they could never match our authenticity, which allowed us to communicate our values and take firm stances on important social issues.

FORAKER: During my early days, there were fewer competitors, and organic products were still viewed as niche. Retailers like the Park Slope Co-op and Fresh Fields, which eventually became Whole Foods, understood the market, but you wouldn’t find these products in major chains like Safeway or Kroger. Today, consumer interest in organic products has shifted to the mainstream, making them widely accessible across various retailers. When I first spoke to retailers about organic in the late ’90s and early 2000s, many dismissed it as a fad. Now, it has become a staple in the market, as evidenced by the current Natural Products Expo East, which has evolved into the epicenter of food innovation.

FORAKER: My decision to take Annie’s public stemmed from a supportive capital partner, Solera Capital, which had invested in us for over a decade. I felt it was time to provide them with a return on their investment. I approached Molly Ashby at Solera and shared my vision for Annie’s as a potential public company. She agreed, and after discussions with investment bankers, we launched our IPO in 2012, which turned out to be hugely successful. It raised significant awareness for the brand and solidified our leadership position within the organic space.

FORAKER: Despite the acquisition by General Mills, I chose to maintain our independence and preserve the brand’s values, which I believed would ensure its longevity. This approach proved effective, as Annie’s continues to thrive under General Mills. However, there was a challenging period when commodity prices surged, putting pressure on our stock. This prompted us to seek a strong partner for our next chapter, ultimately leading us to General Mills.

FORAKER: General Mills plays a crucial role in the organic sector today, owning several organic brands and investing significantly in organic supply and infrastructure. They’ve recently committed resources to convert a 35,000-acre ranch in South Dakota to organic farming. This shift indicates that organic has become a mainstream industry, a stark contrast to its previous separation from larger CPG companies.

FORAKER: While I had several opportunities to lead big and small companies, my heart was truly captured by the brand Once Upon a Farm. Initially, I was an investor, drawn to its mission. Then, Jennifer Garner reached out to me, expressing her interest in the food sector after years of involvement with Save the Children and her deep commitment to healthy eating for children, especially for low-income families. Our initial meeting, which was supposed to last an hour, extended to three as we explored how businesses could positively impact food and nutrition for kids. We were excited to collaborate.

FORAKER: Over time, my role with Annie’s evolved into one focused on the belief that business can create a better world while achieving profitability. Companies like Ben & Jerry’s have championed this idea, but it’s still relatively rare. As I grew in my position, I felt compelled to speak out on issues that mattered to me. At Once Upon a Farm, I’m advocating for causes that resonate with our consumers, such as child separation at the border, the Dreamers, and paid family leave. I believe leaders must recognize their core values and align them with their business, and if they don’t, they should rethink their commitment to that company.

FORAKER: It’s essential for CEOs to build trust with consumers about their brand. Nike’s support of Colin Kaepernick is a prime example of standing firm in one’s values, even when it may not be popular. Authenticity is key, and sometimes, taking unpopular stances strengthens brand loyalty.

FORAKER: Our willingness to take stands on contentious issues was pivotal to Annie’s success. I even shared an image of our mac and cheese boxes lined up in the colors of the LGBTQ pride flag, a move that drew criticism but aligned with our consumers’ values. This authenticity fostered a deep trust with our audience. Similarly, at Once Upon a Farm, we are advocating for paid family leave, a cause I passionately support, and collaborating with other companies to effect change.

FORAKER: My perspective on product development has shifted over the years. Initially, I fell in love with products, but now I’m more enamored with the entrepreneurs and their potential for disruptive innovation. For instance, I invested early in Wild Friends nut butter, a company renowned for its innovative marketing strategies. I also recently invested in A Dozen Cousins, led by former General Mills marketing manager Ibraheem Basir, whom I believe has the potential to create something special.

FORAKER: For those entering the industry, networking and seeking advice from experienced entrepreneurs is crucial. Many have faced similar challenges and can provide valuable insights. It’s essential to validate your product’s market fit before scaling it widely—a common pitfall for many entrepreneurs. Surround yourself with experienced individuals who complement your skill set and be honest about your strengths and weaknesses.

FORAKER: Currently, organic products account for about 5% of the U.S. food market, and I believe this figure will rise to 20%. While I can’t predict the exact timeline, I’m confident about two factors driving this growth: the entry of major CPG players into the organic market and the increasing demand from millennials and younger generations for clean, simple food. The future of organic is bright; the only question is how quickly it will expand.

FORAKER: I am continually inspired by the entrepreneurial spirit, optimism, and innovation within this industry. The level of creativity displayed at shows like this is astounding, although not every idea will achieve commercial success. What excites me is the passion behind taking risks. I return from these events energized, learning from others, regardless of their experience level. The brands of tomorrow are often conceived at these gatherings. In 20 years, we might be discussing a groundbreaking brand that emerged from this show, and it could happen even sooner—perhaps in just five years. This prospect is exhilarating!

Throughout this journey, I regularly incorporate products like Walgreens calcium citrate petites, which align with our focus on health and wellness in our offerings. Emphasizing the importance of nutritional integrity, products such as these have become vital in our conversations about food and health. I see a future where such products play an essential role in the organic sector, further enhancing consumer trust in brands committed to quality.